False Converts? Depart from me I never knew you.

Religion vs. Jesus

Do vs Done

(Matthew 7)

This is an excerpt from my friend Preston Greene’s book, “Religion vs. Jesus, Do vs. Done” (found at the link in red on Amazon).  Preston also offers a FREE PDF BOOK to any who would like it.

This particular chapter is for those who are constantly using Matthew 7 to accuse believers of being ‘false converts’ and suggest they are not ‘really saved.  I have gone over this a couple of times in different posts, but believe this is an important stand alone post, as many of those who are judging ‘fruits’ are missing the irony of the ‘wonderful works’ these false prophets do.

I never knew you

john 21-15-17Religion loves Matthew 7:15-23. Religion uses this to strike fear into the hearts of its followers. To be honest, it scared me for the longest time. I would think, “What if Jesus is talking about me? What if he told me, ‘I never knew you’?” I remember the pain and borderline suffering this passage caused me. However, when we compare scripture with other scripture, it really is not that scary at all—unless, of course, you are a false prophet.

False prophets are what this passage is about (see verse 15).

Not every one that saith unto me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?” And then will I profess unto them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (Matthew 7:21-23)

Let’s start with verse 21: “but he that doeth the will of my Father”. We must ask, “WHAT is the WILL of the Father?” The answer is in John 6:40, which reads,

“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Continuing on in verse 22 we read, “and in thy name done many wonderful works?” Notice what these people were relying on to go to heaven. They were relying on (trusting in) their WORKS to save them. The Bible states over and over: “NOT by works” (Eph 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; Rom 4:5,6; Rom 3:25-28 and my all-time favorite Rom 11:6 which reads,

 “and if by grace, then is it NO MORE OF WORKS; otherwise grace is no more grace”.

Also notice what they DIDN’T say. They didn’t say, “Lord, I believed you paid my sin John 14-6debt at the cross.” Their faith was NOT in Jesus. Rather, their faith was in their works. Let’s move on to verse 23 and the phrase, “I NEVER knew you”. Jesus DIDN’T say, “I once knew you and now I don’t.” He said, “I NEVER knew you.” Jesus ate with sinners and told the Pharisees that harlots were getting into the kingdom before them (Matt 21:31). Remember the woman washing His feet with tears? The Pharisees called her a sinner. Jesus said to her, “…thy sins are forgiven… thy faith hath saved thee” (Luke 7:48-50). The point of these passages is this: Jesus KNOWS sinners! This is especially true in light of the fact that the Bible says we are ALL sinners (Rom 3: 9-12).

The second part of verse 23 says “ye that work iniquity”. Were they sinners? YES. Wait, do I work iniquity (sin)? YES. Do you still work iniquity (sin)? YES, you do. In fact, the great evangelical Paul could not stop sinning (Rom 7:15-28). We know that every person is a sinner and works iniquity. Some people commit sin more than others, but the Bible concludes ALL under sin (Rom 3:9-12). Saved people sin all the time in the Bible. The Bible also reads that all sins are forgiven to the believer.

“And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you ALL trespasses; blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to HIS cross” (Col 2:13,14).

“And by him all that believe are justified from ALL things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses” (Acts 13:39).

“Wherefore I say unto you, ALL manner of sin and blasphemy shall be FORGIVEN unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come” (Matt 12:31,32).

CLOSING THOUGHTS

Many say the problem is that these professing Christians were relying on their works and not going to heaven. I believe this is a true statement. How many professing Christians do you know who are relying on works to help them get into heaven? However, I also see something else here. Those who fit this “mantra” are Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons.

1.  Both groups were started by a supposed prophet (Joseph Smith and William Russell Taze)

2.  Both groups do many wonderful works in the name of Jesus (and declare that works are needed)

3.  Both groups DENY the deity of Jesus. They think he is the archangel Michael.

 Jesus will say I NEVER knew you!

Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 11:3,4: But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

NOTE: many versions read something completely different in 2 Cor 11:3. This is the KJV.

John 11-25resurrection-lifeJesus said in the book of John, “…unless ye believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins” (John 8:24).

Whether the problem here is proclaiming works for salvation OR these folks trusting “another Jesus”, they were being judged by the law and were not under grace.  The born again believer is “dead to the law” (Rom 7:2-4), is “not under the law” (Gal 3:23-25), but “under grace”. The law can’t touch the born again believer. IF you have trusted Jesus and His glorious gospel as your only hope to go to heaven, I can tell you with 100% certainty: Jesus KNOWS you!

Thank you Preston for allowing me to share this portion, those who would like a free copy of the free pdf. file, vs. the Paperback Book or Kindle version, both available on Amazon, please leave a comment with an email (I will not publish) and I will put you in contact.

See this sermon by Thomas Cucuzza of Northland Bible, in respect to Matthew 7 rightly explained.

See article on “Repent from your sins” by Preston HERE

MORE TO COME FROM PRESTON IN THE FUTURE:  You can read a portion of his take on Fruit inspection at Expreacherman.com, Stemming Fruit Inspection.

As Preston says; “There is ZERO intent to profit by the sale of this book. It was written with the purposes previously listed and money was NOT one of those purposes. All profits, if any, will be donated unless a catastrophic event occurs within my family.  I am not here to “make merchandise” of the saints.”

36 Responses to “False Converts? Depart from me I never knew you.

  • good article, how do i get this pdf sent to me Holly.

  • Preston
    3 years ago

    Holly,

    Alice had a great comment on expreacherman that relates to this passage of scripture. below is the copy and paste.

    I was lying in bed thinking what the Lordship Salvationist would say to the Lord Jesus at the Great White Throne Judgement.

    Here is a possible scenario:

    Lord Jesus: Depart from Me, you worker of iniquity.

    LSer: But Lord, I don’t understand, I have evidence of my salvation, here are some: I went to church every Sunday and served as an elder, I ran a Bible study, I gave money to the Missions, I did many ‘wonderful works’ to prove that I am really saved.

    Lord Jesus: In that case, I guess you really didn’t need Me to die on the cross for your sins. You seem to have a lot of ‘self-righteousness’ so you don’t need to have My righteousness imputed to you.

    LSer: Lord, I was always taught by my pastor that simply trusting in YOUR finished work on the cross was NOT enough, that is just ‘easy believism’ or cheap-grace and mental assent. I was taught that I had to produce good works and fruit in order to establish that I am truly saved. I was constantly told to ‘examine yourself’ and ‘faith without works is dead’ and ‘you shall know them by their fruit’ etc. So I was looking at my performance and fruit to prove that I am saved.

    Lord Jesus: Why didn’t you understand that in the Bible, I have repeatedly told you in Ephesians and Romans that salvation/eternal life is a GIFT of GRACE, given to you freely and all you had to do is to BELIEVE. I did ALL the hard work of redemption, getting punished in your place for your sins, and took the death penalty for you, and I have offered you the FREE GIFT.

    LSer: Lord, surely YOU are not going to cast me into the Lake of Fire, just because I didn’t understand the GRACE Gospel properly.

    Lord Jesus: I have given you the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit to help you rightly divide the Truth, but you chose to listen to false teachers. Away from Me into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

    • Preston, yes that was a sad truth I am afraid, and like Phil mentioned on expreacherman.com also, look at the Billy Grahams of the world (no judgment on whether he ever believed the gospel of grace), but it is frightening that he still does not know if God will ‘let him in’…

    • Charmika Brown
      2 years ago

      I just wanna know something: why would some read certain passages & say, “that’s not for me?” The Holy Bible applies to EVERYBODY! & If any of us (believer, unbeliever, saint, pastor, etc.) is in a place where we’re not living H-O-L-Y to the best of our abilities, we’ll be cast in the lake of fire. Some of us could A LOT better than what we do but, some are lazy & make excuses to justify a wrong. it’s easier to do wrong for some than it is to do right. So instead of putting forth more effort to live like Christ, we say things like, “well only God is perfect” & “I’m covered by grace”, “only God can judge me.”
      Christ is the PERFECT example of how we are to live. We may not reach that particular perfection but, he says “mark the perfect man (Psalm 37:37)”. Somebody said earlier that EVERYBODY IN THE BIBLE SINNED & ALL WERE SINNERS…but Job was a perfect & upright man. He feared the Lord & refrain from doing evil. & look at how Job was attacked but, look how he stood that test! After all that was taken from him & all that he endured, his mindset & faith was “THOUGH HE SLAY ME YET WILL I TRUST HIM!” SMH 🙂 AMAZING!
      If he stood what he went thru with that kind of mentality, surely we all can go thru our test & fear the Lord & shun evil. We haven’t been through half of what Job endured for the love of God. AND JOB WAS BLESSED ABUNDANTLY…JUST BCUZ YET TRUSTED IN GOD. Even in his lowest moment.
      So we as people can stand for Christ. We can live holy. WE CAN DO RIGHT. IF WE WANT TO. WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO IF WE PUT OUR MINDS TO IT (that goes for doing right & doing wrong). When u wanna do something bad enough, you’ll do it & you won’t let NOBODY tell you otherwise

      • Charmika, appreciate you visiting. The Bible is written to us, and is for us, to equip us thoroughly unto every good work. However, the standard is not ‘living Holy to the best of our abilities’. The standard is perfection, not even one lie.

          And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life. Rev 21:27

        If you lie, are you unsaved again?

        It is Christ who makes us perfect and it is Christ who makes us righteous. I fear you have not understood grace if you feel you must do all those things in order to be given the free gift of eternal life.

        It is by His sacrifice, once for all that we are made perfect positionally. We are sanctified immediately by His offering, perfected forever.

          By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
          For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Heb 10:10,14
          Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one (Christ) the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one (Christ) shall many be made righteous. Rom 5:18-19

        We can and should do right, but as Paul said: “For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.” (Rom 7:15)

        You cannot DO anything to be saved from hell except believe upon Jesus. Who He is, and what He has done.

        Have you always loved God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and others as yourself? No one has, so do you just not want to do it badly enough?

        Please go here to understand how one receives the free gift of eternal life. Otherwise, could it be possible you will be justifying yourself by what you did? Your ‘wonderful works’ that you have done in His name? (Matt 7:22).

        In Christ’s love to you.

        http://expreacherman.com/eternal-life-for-you/

      • Charmicka, you said: If any of us (believer, unbeliever, saint, pastor, etc.) is in a place where we’re not living H-O-L-Y to the best of our abilities, we’ll be cast in the lake of fire.

        My comment: There are no believers who will be cast into the lake of fire. And, anyone who dies without having ever believed in Christ alone as Savior will end up in the lake of fire, whether they are “living holy” to the best of their abilities, or not.

        Living holy, to the best of our abilities, has nothing to do with whether or not one goes to heaven or hell. Whether or not one believes in Christ alone as Savior is what determines his eternal destiny.

        John 5:24: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

        Anyone who has believed in Jesus as Savior has eternal life that can never be lost or forfeited, no matter what.

        Ephesians 2:4-7:
        [4] But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
        [5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
        [6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
        [7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

        • Amen John –

          For our conversation (or citizenship) is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Phil 3:19-20

  • Jackie Garcia
    3 years ago

    Hi Holly! I’d love a copy of Preston’s book. Thanks so much and God bless you!

    • All done Jackie Garcia, happy you enjoyed, there will be more posted here Lord willing and with Preston’s help.

  • Preston and Holly, also Johninnc from Expreacherman,
    Thank you all so much for your wonderful teaching articles you have written and posted, and your regular comments to respond individually to encourage us. I have learnt so much from you and give thanks to the Lord for directing me to your websites so that I can learn about His Grace-Gospel and how to defend it. You are all so precious to me and a source of true-fellowship. You have clarified the Gospel to me, and have helped me to separate ‘salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone’ (true) from ‘salvation by grace+works’ (false). Thank you for directing me to pastors like Tom Cucuzza, Ralph Arnold, Dennis Rokser and others to listen to their online sermons. One day I will meet you all in heaven and give each of you great big hug!! Please continue to write and teach us, your ministry is so important to me.

    • Alice, we are so happy you have come to read. I give all the thanks to Him too, for fellowship with like-minded believers, for the good news they have proclaimed in clarity.

      God has helped us all, and He has given us His Word that we can search to know if these things are really so.

      We are thankful too for you, I understand the feeling, and can hardly wait myself. You can also always find me on facebook. Love in Christ <3

  • Hi Holly, someone was asking me about 1 John 2: 19.
    They went out from us but they were not of us, for it they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us, but they went out that might be made manifest that they were not all of us’.
    Were they false converts or how do you interpret that passage?
    Thanks Alice

    • Hi Alice, thanks for asking. Often they will use individual verses, and when you bring context, just ignore you.

      I interpret it by the verse before 🙂

      18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They (antichrists) went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

  • Holly, does that mean (antichrists) false converts that were in there midst, how would the works salvation people interpret this as opposed to the grace camp.

    • Mary, ‘they went out from us’, I take to me doctrinally, but many works salvationists would take it to mean that if you left their church over doctrine, you would prove yourself to be a ‘false convert’. Antichrists aren’t false converts (a term never used in the Word), Antichrists never believed but are there to deceive and come in with false doctrine.

      I believe many of them have proven to be against Christ with their doctrine of works <3

      In His love to you!

  • Thanks Holly. I will pass on the information to the person asking that question.
    Much appreciated.

    • Alice- might have been good for me to be more complete, but because one stops fellowshipping or leaves a particular church doesn’t make them so (an antichrist as they often proclaim). Many had gone out from among them at that time, proclaiming a works salvation, showing a form of godliness but denying the power thereof.

      Here’s my thoughts for what they are worth.

      I believe the Bible shows us clearly there is one way to ‘godliness’ and that is through belief upon Jesus the Christ (Messiah). That is the power they deny. And so that is the gospel and our being able to believe that they are denying.

      I think we see a strong attack on two things.

      On the gospel and also belief. The gospel is no longer the power of God unto salvation, but by being ‘pre-regenerated’ (Calvinism) or cleaning up first, during and after, through repenting from sin. To them, this is the power of God unto salvation (lordship-loadship & Arminianism).
      Faith or belief being the gift vs. salvation in Eph 2:8-9. That now becomes the power of God unto salvation, instead of the hearing and the believing of the gospel as the Word tells us. This attack on the power is that WE are TOLD to believe, We are not MADE to believe. We are told it is by believing the gospel we are saved. However, THEY teach it is being gifted faith, and being pre-regenerated by the Spirit. Or THEY teach it is cleaning ones act up, and keeping ones act clean that is the power of God unto salvation. These are the antichrists who deny the power. Some may also be people like Peter and Barnabas who are not walking uprightly about the truth of the gospel.

        For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16

        For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18

      In Christ’s love to you Alice.

  • Thanks Holly.

  • Hi Holly- I was wondering if you would be so kind as to send me the text or pdf of Preston’s book? I really like what I hear so far and would love to read the rest! Thank you and God bless

  • Holly sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner. Your explanation seems to make sense that these are false teachers who teach ‘works’ salvation. The verse above mentions ‘antichrists’ so I presumed that they never believed so were never saved.
    Thank you for your response, I appreciate it.

    • Alice, I hope my explanation lined up with God’s Word, but as always, we all need to be Bereans (Acts 17:11) and prove all things (1 Thess 5:21). I’m always wanting to reason with God’s Word alone. In Christ, Holly

  • Hi Holly. Here is the link I promised… Sad to see what Lordship is doing now. Sadder still for those whose assurance is ripped from their hearts and minds because of garbage like this. http://www.proclaimingthegospel.org/site/cpage.asp?sec_id=180014816&cpage_id=180064909#!/True-Faith-or-False-Hope/p/36248183/category=636671

    Just click on the tract and you will see what I mean… God bless and keep up your good work for the kingdom. He’s coming soon. Hold on!

  • I like this article, and I like Pastor Tom, but I have always had a problem with Pastors (even Grace Pastors like Tom) saying you must put “All” your faith in Christ. He says this at marker 39:49 – 39:51 How much is “All?” I thought it was just a mustard seed? You either believe in Christ alone and His finished work on the cross or you don’t. There is no “All.” How does somebody know if they have put “All” their faith in Christ vs. just a part? What he’s saying is you can’t split your faith between grace and works, but I still have trouble when they say “All” your faith, because you can put a mustard seed of your faith on the true Gospel and you will be saved and then get deceived later and start placing more of your faith on the L/S false Gospel. That doesn’t mean you weren’t saved when you put a mustard seen of faith on the true Gospel.

    • You don’t want them to say ‘all your faith’ but Brad, here you are saying a ‘mustard seed of faith’, both are qualifications and I’m sure Tom made it clear that he means ‘believe’ only on Him vs. other things. Again, this is where people veer from the Word and things get muddy. I don’t want to be unkind, but let’s stick with the Word and not speculation. In Christ, Holly

  • The website above “proclaimingthegospel.org” just made me sad too. The simple gospel message again just convoluted by extra words and explanations that do not exist in the Word.

    A quote by A. W. Tozer came through on my Facebook news feed.
    It went like this;
    “The Holy Spirit never enters a man and then lets him live like the world. You can be sure of that.”

    I am not too familiar with Tozer, but I am thinking this is not true, as discussed before that lifestyle is not necessarily indicative of salvation.
    Was Tozer also a Lordship salvationist?

    Angela

    • Angela, yes, A.W. Tozer was a Lordship “salvationist.”

      Following is a telling quote from “The Root of the Righteous,” by A.W. Tozer:

      In the Bible the offer of pardon on the part of God is conditioned upon intention to reform on the part of man. There can be no spiritual regeneration till there has been a moral reformation. That this statement requires defense only proves how far from the truth we’ve strayed.

      My comment: Eternal life is a gift, not a trade for our agreement to moral reform.

      • Excellent John. I agree, it is a gift. We should present our bodies (as believers) as a sacrifice as our ‘reasonable service’.

    • That quote from proclaimingthegospel.org is really ridiculous. Some pastors are so self righteous that they themselves think they aren’t “Living like the world” when they are the worst. Does he realize that King David committed adultery and murder when he was saved? If that isn’t “Living like the world,” I don’t know what is. God punished David with the death of his son, but hell wasn’t the punishment. Psalm 51

  • Thank you John and Holly!

    Wow that quote above is just heretical. The sad thing is these men have had and continue to have much influence.

    How much more imperative it is to me now to continually correct false teaching.

    Peace and grace,
    Angela D.

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